Elite_Deforce Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 I't a chassis problem (don't get the first year of a new gen), But you have to say the LS3/LS7/LS9 are great engines. Yeah, but it's like putting some chocolate in the middle of a lard factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. joint Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 That's always the problem with muscle cars. Power needs to be harnessed and controlled. Not all roads lead to a straight line, ya' know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007DBR9 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Looks good, can't wait to get a go of one and compare to the Vauxhall! GM aren't that bad, certainly not as bad as Chrysler. I can't remember the last good car (excluding the Viper) they made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shpuker Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Chrysler uses crappy Merc platforms, tomato tomato. 300 would be good if it wasn't so plasticy. Commander IS meh, new Cherokee does look hype. Challenger is full of shit im sorry. Although I'm not afraid to put the Camaro in last place. They're switching to moded Fiat ones if that helps True, the new o300 & Charger are sposed to be better. We'll see. The new Cherokee is the type of car that can turn a company around. And it is in fact, doin just that The Challenger is as full of shit as bad ass can be. So yes its got some major issues. But its still bad ass lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shpuker Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Looks good, can't wait to get a go of one and compare to the Vauxhall! GM aren't that bad, certainly not as bad as Chrysler. I can't remember the last good car (excluding the Viper) they made. The 02 and older Ram's (aside from shoddy transmissions around 2000. They were still great though) The new rams, the new GC, the 04 and older grand cherokee, the cherokee "sport", and the concept Charger from 1999 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite_Deforce Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 GM aren't that bad, certainly not as bad as Chrysler. I can't remember the last good car (excluding the Viper) they made. Well... The Challenger is as full of shit as bad ass can be. So yes its got some major issues. But its still bad ass lol It's also still not a Mustang, lol. The 02 and older Ram's (aside from shoddy transmissions around 2000. They were still great though) The new rams, the new GC, the 04 and older grand cherokee, the cherokee "sport", and the concept Charger from 1999 lol I'm sorry, I find the previous GC to be so overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007DBR9 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 The 02 and older Ram's (aside from shoddy transmissions around 2000. They were still great though) The new rams, the new GC, the 04 and older grand cherokee, the cherokee "sport", and the concept Charger from 1999 lol The Ram's weren't that good, I drove a Cummins one and was not very impressed. Never liked the Cherokee. Forgot about the new Challenger! The Charger only comes in auto though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shpuker Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 It's also still not a Mustang, lol. I'm sorry, I find the previous GC to be so overrated. And its not trying to be. The first gen Grand Cherokee was an off-roading beast (the V8 one) the 05-10 ones were terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shpuker Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) The Ram's weren't that good, I drove a Cummins one and was not very impressed. Never liked the Cherokee. Forgot about the new Challenger! The Charger only comes in auto though... The old 24valve Cummins was amazing. You get 20mpg in a 3/4 ton pickup no matter what your doing. An the engine was damn near bullet proof The Cherokee (not grand) was a pretty sweet car. (excluding the 4cyl) They look good and they're great off-road This is the original concept Edited August 17, 2010 by Shpuker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite_Deforce Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 And its not trying to be. The first gen Grand Cherokee was an off-roading beast (the V8 one) the 05-10 ones were terrible. -Maybe that's the problem. -Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007DBR9 Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 The old 24valve Cummins was amazing. You get 20mpg in a 3/4 ton pickup no matter what your doing. An the engine was damn near bullet proof The Cherokee (not grand) was a pretty sweet car. (excluding the 4cyl) They look good and they're great off-road It was ok, but I prefer the alternatives from Ford and GM. Never really took off over here, probably because most people go to Land Rover for off roading! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shpuker Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 (edited) It was ok, but I prefer the alternatives from Ford and GM. Never really took off over here, probably because most people go to Land Rover for off roading! The alternatives from Ford and Chevy were far behind. The old Powerstroke wasn't to bad but it wasn't nearly as durable. The Chevy diesel wasn't even in the ball game back then. Over here the Cherokee was a good $15,000 cheaper than the Discovery, and as good, if not better off-road. Edited August 19, 2010 by Shpuker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammo Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 The alternatives from Ford and Chevy were far behind. The old Powerstroke wasn't to bad but it wasn't nearly as durable. The Chevy diesel wasn't even in the ball game back then. Over here the Cherokee was a good $15,000 cheaper than the Discovery, and as good, if not better off-road. But over here, we get variants of LR Disco, Defender and Freelander that you dont get. LR are ahead of Jeep on 4x4 sales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite_Deforce Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Ohhhhh shiiiiiiiettt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammo Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Ohhhhh shiiiiiiiettt. Whhhaaaaaatttttttttt??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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