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Toyota, Honda and Nissan can't make their cars look to nice for fear of eating into sales of their much more profitable luxury series.

 

 

 

True. The problem here is complacency. When a model is selling well (nevermind the dull and anesthesized drive) they begin to think that the public wants more of the dull shit.

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Yeah I hate it when the marketers keep the car mfg from making the best car they can. See the Cayman aka Cockster.

 

 

 

Hell yeah! I actually prefer the cayman over the gay panamera but eniwei..that's the reason why i love subaru's and mitsubishi's (and bimmers despite being ugly as hell) coz they focus on what is important in the actual driving experience. Their products greatly involve the driver and evokes passion, which is cool. They may not sell much but that's ok coz their products cater to a minority anyway. And the minority has evolved to a somewhat cult-following amongst it's fans. Thats how good their cars are.

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I mean they should at least try to differentiate the model famillies, right? Imagine paying a premium for a lexus when what you really got is a rebadged camry. I agree with you on the tiburon, but it's all in the past now.

Yeah, but you don't (see ES)

 

Hell yeah! I actually prefer the cayman over the gay panamera but eniwei..that's the reason why i love subaru's and mitsubishi's (and bimmers despite being ugly as hell) coz they focus on what is important in the actual driving experience. Their products greatly involve the driver and evokes passion, which is cool. They may not sell much but that's ok coz their products cater to a minority anyway. And the minority has evolved to a somewhat cult-following amongst it's fans. Thats how good their cars are.

Are you serious? You'd rather a Coxter over a panamera??

 

Mitsubishi no longer has any respect in the automotive world, BMW has lost its sole after the E46 gen

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Yeah, but you don't (see ES)

 

 

Are you serious? You'd rather a Coxter over a panamera??

 

Mitsubishi no longer has any respect in the automotive world, BMW has lost its sole after the E46 gen

 

 

Or probably a 911. Coxter is fine. I'd stay away from the panamera (the Quatroporte is waaaay better.)

 

True. But that's how the automotive landscape is. 10 or 12yrs. ago who would imagine toyota being no.1 (despite the dull cars?) Ford used to be on top of the world, too. Competiton is healthy, and im glad all the products are improving coz we, the customers, would ultimately benefit from it.

 

Im glad that despite mitsubishi not having any respect left (allegedly) at least they're not being complacent.

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Or probably a 911. Coxter is fine. I'd stay away from the panamera (the Quatroporte is waaaay better.)

 

True. But that's how the automotive landscape is. 10 or 12yrs. ago who would imagine toyota being no.1 (despite the dull cars?) Ford used to be on top of the world, too. Competiton is healthy, and im glad all the products are improving coz we, the customers, would ultimately benefit from it.

 

Im glad that despite mitsubishi not having any respect left (allegedly) at least they're not being complacent.

-Coxter is German for gay

-Quatroporte is also waaaaaaaaaaay more expenisve

-A lot of people knew toyota would be on top 10 years ago, and i still believe ford will be on top once again now.

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-Coxter is German for gay

-Quatroporte is also waaaaaaaaaaay more expenisve

-A lot of people knew toyota would be on top 10 years ago, and i still believe ford will be on top once again now.

 

 

-LOL :lol:

-But the Qutroporte looks waaaaaaaaaay better and evokes passion. Nevermind the price premium. Panamera is ghastly.

-Agree. Ford makes better cars than toyota, period.

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-LOL :lol:

-But the Qutroporte looks waaaaaaaaaay better and evokes passion. Nevermind the price premium. Panamera is ghastly.

-Agree. Ford makes better cars than toyota, period.

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-Yeah but even if I had the money for both I would obviously take the mllion times more practical Porsche. Oh and I like the look of the Porsche so looks mean nothing.

-true that

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I think the majority would say that the car looks good, but after we clean the drool of our chins ( if we even get that far lol) The smart ones will snap back to reality and be like "Whats under the hood" ;)

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More like, that's by far their lamest excuse at design yet and we have had the Tiburon.

 

LOL you cant get over the Tiburan now, cant you? ;)

 

I think I said this before, but I'm glad the Tiburon is out.

 

And Im glad the Genesis is not the Tiburon's successor.

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