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- From personal experience with both...

- Looks are subjective, I like how it looks

- This is interesting--> http://www.nextautos.com/dodge-challenger-...g-sales-numbers .

http://www.challengerblog.com/blog/1019453...ebruary-of-2009

Couldn't find the mustang sales but insert that # here :lol: lol

- Beats the Explorer in gas mileage :lol: not a big feat but yay. I like it though, their really good in the snow so their really popular here.

-I like the way it looks but its kind of a no purpose SUV. Tis why I like it :lol:

- I think its more of a, Fiat is gona try to make it faster :(.

-Your personal experience can suck it. Every person I know who uses these for work says the F-series is the way.

-K that was maybe one out of five or six arguments.

-I'm too lazy to read, give me the jist of it and Ill counter. I did however notice how much cheaper the Mustang is for how much better it is.

-The explorer is 1 billion times better in everything else. And I hate the explorer, so that's how shit the Cherokee is.

-Ok well... you're a moron. :lol:

-I think it's more of a, Fiat is going to takeover the entire lineup thus making Chrysler essentially dead anyway. Think of it as a very big import company.

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-Your personal experience can suck it. Every person I know who uses these for work says the F-series is the way.

-K that was maybe one out of five or six arguments.

-I'm too lazy to read, give me the jist of it and Ill counter. I did however notice how much cheaper the Mustang is for how much better it is.

-The explorer is 1 billion times better in everything else. And I hate the explorer, so that's how shit the Cherokee is.

-Ok well... you're a moron. :(

-I think it's more of a, Fiat is going to takeover the entire lineup thus making Chrysler essentially dead anyway. Think of it as a very big import company.

 

-My dads a builder, he's driven a Dodge for the past 10 years, a couple of his friends have fords, they've all broken down at least twice each

- I'm not really sure it just looked fancy, had the sales #'s though, tey used the Ford GT and the Challenger SRT so it wasn't an even comparison, the Challenger RT (which is a V8, and costs $31,000) was apparently forgotten

- The Explorer looks worse, and can't do shit off-road, and rides rough as an asian hooker. I'd say it loses

- Thats besides the point

-meh, they can do whatever they want to the: Caliber, avenger, Journey, Commander, Compass, Patriot, Liberty, PT cruiser, Sebring, Charger and the Nitro. Cause they all have really big issues. They better not screw up the Rams though :lol:

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-My dads a builder, he's driven a Dodge for the past 10 years, a couple of his friends have fords, they've all broken down at least twice each

- I'm not really sure it just looked fancy, had the sales #'s though, tey used the Ford GT and the Challenger SRT so it wasn't an even comparison, the Challenger RT (which is a V8, and costs $31,000) was apparently forgotten

- The Explorer looks worse, and can't do shit off-road, and rides rough as an asian hooker. I'd say it loses

- Thats besides the point

-meh, they can do whatever they want to the: Caliber, avenger, Journey, Commander, Compass, Patriot, Liberty, PT cruiser, Sebring, Charger and the Nitro. Cause they all have really big issues. They better not screw up the Rams though :lol:

-I'm willing to bet your dad has no Kms on the clock and those Fords were beat on hard and were all twin turbo diesels.

-Yeah cause the RT sucks. But then again, so does the challenger. Hmm.... no... that makes sense.... right? .............................. Challenger sucks.

-Read #10, it will do what the Cherokee can, but then again taht's not what the Explorer is for, stupidly. The ride is fantastic imo.

-I don't think so. :(

-Who cares about the Rams? *cough* Raptor *cough*. But it's kind of funny how every car in that sentance is garbage and that is essentially 90% of chryslers cars right there, lol.

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This is why you aren't my friend.

 

:(

 

The point is, I wouldn't buy one in the first place. I guess I forgot the Range Rover... Screw the BM and the Audi.

 

But still, I wouldn't buy a Cherokee.

 

What would you buy with your money if you had to buy an SUV?

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-I'm willing to bet your dad has no Kms on the clock and those Fords were beat on hard and were all twin turbo diesels.

-Yeah cause the RT sucks. But then again, so does the challenger. Hmm.... no... that makes sense.... right? .............................. Challenger sucks.

-Read #10, it will do what the Cherokee can, but then again taht's not what the Explorer is for, stupidly. The ride is fantastic imo.

-I don't think so. :(

-Who cares about the Rams? *cough* Raptor *cough*. But it's kind of funny how every car in that sentance is garbage and that is essentially 90% of chryslers cars right there, lol.

 

- My dad put 180,000 miles on the first one and 110,000 so far on the 05', my sister crashed the first one, one of his friends had a Harley edition and the others had diesel f-250s

- Us and our opinions :lol:

- *cough* Power Wagon *cough*, and I'll admit, most Chryslers suck balls, but not all! :lol:

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:lol:

 

The point is, I wouldn't buy one in the first place. I guess I forgot the Range Rover... Screw the BM and the Audi.

 

But still, I wouldn't buy a Cherokee.

 

What would you buy with your money if you had to buy an SUV?

Cayenne

 

- My dad put 180,000 miles on the first one and 110,000 so far on the 05', my sister crashed the first one, one of his friends had a Harley edition and the others had diesel f-250s

- Us and our opinions :lol:

- *cough* Power Wagon *cough*, and I'll admit, most Chryslers suck balls, but not all! :P

(fp)

 

The supercharged Land Rover :D

(FP)

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I don't know, the Cayenne is pretty ugly! But then none of the modern SUV's (except the Range Rover) look very good.

 

I still maintain that I would never buy an SUV anyway. You can buy an M5 for the cost of a Range Rover, And a VXR8 for half the price that is better, so why spend money you don't need to??

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The 300c is crap. I know - I have driven several. Want a list of reasons, just ask.

 

I like the Challanger, but it needs a better gearbox and better cornering ablilities when cars like the GT500 exist.

 

The Grand Cherokee is crap. Interior is small for an SUV, drinks far too much, and drives badly. Yes it works off road (kind of), but the people who buy these cars don't use them off road. If it were my money and I was buying an SUV it would be an X5 or a Q7.

 

Don't know about the others, I will leave that to E_D

TG said that the GT500's cornering was crap because it has a solid axle and that the Roush Mustang with 100 less HP was better because it had an IRS. When you think of the genesis of the Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, Charger they were made to do what America does best - go in a straight line, so we don't do much with turning capabilities, not like the Europeans.

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TG said that the GT500's cornering was crap because it has a solid axle and that the Roush Mustang with 100 less HP was better because it had an IRS. When you think of the genesis of the Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, Charger they were made to do what America does best - go in a straight line, so we don't do much with turning capabilities, not like the Europeans.

 

I didn't say the GT500 was brilliant, I just said it was miles better than the Challanger :P

 

What is the Charger like through the corners?

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I wasn't admitting defeat, I was just giving up.

 

I don't know, the Cayenne is pretty ugly! But then none of the modern SUV's (except the Range Rover) look very good.

 

I still maintain that I would never buy an SUV anyway. You can buy an M5 for the cost of a Range Rover, And a VXR8 for half the price that is better, so why spend money you don't need to??

Yes absolutely it is the ugliest. But can you honestly think of a better SUV? Like I would take a Navigator or an Escalade in a second if they weren't such a joke.

Yeah screw SUVs so useless. Watch me as I rape you in my far less expensive, far more efficient, and unfortunately far gayer Boxter.

TG said that the GT500's cornering was crap because it has a solid axle and that the Roush Mustang with 100 less HP was better because it had an IRS. When you think of the genesis of the Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, Charger they were made to do what America does best - go in a straight line, so we don't do much with turning capabilities, not like the Europeans.

Well I would definitely buy a Roush if I had that kind of money, but I mean otherwise I would just get the track pack on the GT and call it a day, like it seriously isn't that bad. Anything handles better than a Challenger but the Mustang isn't just that it is a bit more.

 

I didn't say the GT500 was brilliant, I just said it was miles better than the Challanger :P

 

What is the Charger like through the corners?

What do you think?

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