innotech Posted April 23, 2001 Report Share Posted April 23, 2001 Personally in terms of looks I pick the Zonda, but as for desirability, Id say both are about equal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonda Posted April 23, 2001 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2001 well... THE ZONDA is NOOOOOO slouch: it has same or better 0 - 60 mph time it has faster top speed it is same weight it is FAST it doesn't have a break-down Ford engine, it's got a V12 Benz It has better performance, but doesn't sacrifice a/c, power windows, etc., but is the exact same weight still! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacingManiac Posted April 23, 2001 Report Share Posted April 23, 2001 Saleen comes with wind-tunnel tested, full ground effect aerodynamic(no, not just the "Ground Effect" skirt on normal road car, the full undertray of the S7 is one big wing), capable of generating the same downforce as the car's weight at 160mph. Racing brakes, suspension and a aluminum tube spaceframe chassis and a honey comb reinforcement. And the engine, although it uses a Ford built, 7 liter aluminum engine block, it was tuned and partly redesigned by Saleen. Comfort wise, full leather interior uses the same grade of leather as the Rolls and Bentley, aluminum trim on dash board and a detachable, race inspire steering wheel, along with navigation that serve as a rearview mirror when backing up. IMO, the car is better than Pagani in everyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Hed Posted April 23, 2001 Report Share Posted April 23, 2001 Chevy can do better!! IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurenai Posted April 23, 2001 Report Share Posted April 23, 2001 Originally posted by Zonda it doesn't have a break-down Ford engine, it's got a V12 Benz Ford big-blocks are damn reliable motors. You'll notice that that "break-down Ford engine" got the S7 a win in the GTS class at Sebring with no problems, even under heavy duress and only 3 months after it's introduction. That's something the Pagandi has yet to do. Further, are you claiming that the Zonda is reliable? You've got to be fucking kidding me... as been said, it's a status symbol for those who can afford it... and the complete engine rebuild it will probably require around 30,000 miles, not to mention other regular, high cost repairs. No exotics are known for their reliability, and the Zonda is no exception. You simply don't bring reliability into the equation when you're talking about a car like the Zonda... yes, it's an interesting car, but reliable? No. More reliable than the Saleen? That remains to be determined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpyben Posted April 23, 2001 Report Share Posted April 23, 2001 An NSX or a C5 or a 996 is reliable, a Zonda? No, I don't give a **** if it has a German engine, but that thing isn't reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLaren LM Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Wow... take a break from here, come back and see the same classic responses... Zonda. Nothing like the creamy smooth purring of a V12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyRightFOOT Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 You have to be retarted to say that the Zonda is better because it has uses V12 Benz engine and the S7 uses the pushrod Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonda Posted April 24, 2001 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 i didn't mean the Zonda IS reliable... we have no way of really knowing... I never heard anything good about Ford engines... especially the Taurus... etc... I never said a V12 is better than a V8.. i don't think.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonda Posted April 24, 2001 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 i was just looking back and I NEVER SAID THE ZONDA IS RELIABLE.... anwayz... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecca tt Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Zonda, maybe you should learn a little bit more about the two cars before you blow **** out your ***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurenai Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Originally posted by Zonda I never heard anything good about Ford engines... especially the Taurus... etc... Perhaps you just aren't listening well enough. Two Taurus V6s make up the Aston Martin Vanquish's V12, BTW. And if they're good enough for Aston Martin.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonda Posted April 26, 2001 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 all i said was it had a break-down Ford engine and everyone is now mad @ me. Now i see what ppl mean when they say ppl here are always jumping on each other.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLaren LM Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 Originally posted by Zonda all i said was it had a break-down Ford engine and everyone is now mad @ me. Now i see what ppl mean when they say ppl here are always jumping on each other.... Remeber where you're at guy... PRO-U.S.A forum... anything you say whether of factual/Non or common sense terms will be taken as the okay to hammer you. And to compare a ford block to a Benz block is ridiculous. And to compare, say, even the tuners; Saleen to AMG GmbH is outright uncomprehensible... PushRods... "High-Tech" stuff... Certified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacingManiac Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 Saleen's engine is all aluminum Block, weight wise, the engine is probably lighter than the big V12 of the Benz, and like Chris V. had said, push rod is in fact, "newer" than DOHC age wise..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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