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[99integra]

Elite_Deforce, on 26 March 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

I still don't understand how people rationalize hybrids.

Better than paying for diesel, shit diesels $4.30 up here in Ohio.

[Chris V.]

I lvoe the Volt, and woudl own one now if my Mini's lease was up. The thought of commuting the entire year on no gasoline at all, but still having that gas engine as backup if I wanted to drive it the 600 miles round trip to Connecticut and back. With my 10 cents per KWH, it woudl cost me about a buck and a half a week to drive the Volt on the commute.

Plus, I think it looks cool, and is a really neat tech toy for geeks liek me. I'd have one in red....

[Wally]

Elite_Deforce, on 26 March 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

I still don't understand how people rationalize hybrids.

I don't understand why another hundred or more million has to be spent on it by our local guys to make it safe and green for Australian sales?

[nerddason]

Chris V., on 26 March 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

the Prius is just a gas hybrid with a larger battery pack, not a true EV with range extender like the Volt. The Prius also benefits from sharing it's chassis with the regular production Prius, and is not a one-off car. The Volt is simply a higher tech car by far. I could commute all week long on just electricicty in the Volt. The PHV Prius still would need gasoline to do that.

True the Volt can drive on electricity alone but the Prius PHV is rated at 95 MPGe so the fact that you are going to maybe spend an extra dollar or two a week yet save a fortune of the initial price. My issue with the Volt is that too much was spent on development and GM will not recoup their money due to the fact that many buyers will be looking at Toyota. Now if the Cadillac ELR is delivered looking like the Concept then GM might move a few more Volt chassis(s) but then again it will probably cost $60k. Volt is a great concept that was poorly executed IMO.

[Chris V.]

nerddason, on 21 May 2012 - 03:34 AM, said:

True the Volt can drive on electricity alone but the Prius PHV is rated at 95 MPGe so the fact that you are going to maybe spend an extra dollar or two a week yet save a fortune of the initial price. My issue with the Volt is that too much was spent on development and GM will not recoup their money due to the fact that many buyers will be looking at Toyota. Now if the Cadillac ELR is delivered looking like the Concept then GM might move a few more Volt chassis(s) but then again it will probably cost $60k. Volt is a great concept that was poorly executed IMO.

I disagree that it was poorly executed. i find it properly executed, though yes, unlike the Prius, it wasn't being sold at a loss to dump them on the market. Unlike Toyota, GM can't afford to do that. The Prius PHV is still shorter range than the Volt, and it costs the same. Just nothing at all appealing about it, to me. The Volt is also more comfortable and a bit more powerful. And I think it looks better.