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[Joe Sharp]

considering theres about a $7000 tax break and in the end, electrical power is cheaper for consumers than gasoline... i mean it's good for now. what do you think about the future for hydrogen powered vehicles?

[anderson19]

Though the Leaf is the first electric vehicle to be honored — the competition has been around for 47 years — the European Car of the Year award hasn't shied away from efficient vehicles. Much like Europe as a whole, the panel of judges seems to like their cars small and gas friendly. In addition to the Prius the award has been given to the Ford Focus — which is soon to be electric too — and the Toyota Yaris, two vehicles with non-guzzling engines that are also available in the US.
This award recognizes the pioneering zero-emission Nissan LEAF as competitive to conventional cars in terms of safety, performance, spaciousness and handling," noted Nissan Motor Company's President and CEO Carlos Ghosn. The award was decided by a jury of 57 automotive journalists who narrowed the pool of 41 contenders down to seven in the first weeks of November. That pool of seven included the Alfa Romeo Giulietta, the Citroën C3/DS3, the Dacia Duster, the Ford C-Max, the Opel/Vauxhall Meriva and the Volvo S60/V60.

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[CarKingRing]

I don't know. I have mixed feelings about it. The range is a bit too short to be really comfortable driving it, and like others have said, the electricity pulled into the battery makes one feel like they're contributing to oil usage but indirectly. If they can increase the range to about 200 miles and/or reduce the cost to 20k or lower, it would be a fantastic car.

[Joe Sharp]

i think the all-electric leaf is a good place to start with electric driving. obviously there are range issues now (i.e. it only gets around 70 miles per charge) but i think eventually they'll be able to go even farther. do you guys think cities/states will be able to provide the infrastructure needed to help the electric cars take off?

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[kiosban]

nice car

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[Chris V.]

Joe Sharp, on Jul 14 2011, 10:54 AM, said:

i think the all-electric leaf is a good place to start with electric driving. obviously there are range issues now (i.e. it only gets around 70 miles per charge) but i think eventually they'll be able to go even farther. do you guys think cities/states will be able to provide the infrastructure needed to help the electric cars take off?

The infrastructure is already being built all over, with most of I5 on th e west coast having recharging stations. Companies are building employee parking with rechargers, and businesses like restaruants are building rechargers for customers to use whelie in the business.

Range anxiety is silly. Most people (or at least the average person) don't drive more thna 30 miles a day, and most of those people drive less than 20 miles a day. If you charge at night at your home, you can easily do a couple hundred miles per week in commuting and errand running. No, you're not going to take long trip s in one, but most of the time, for most peopel they aren't taking long trips in their family car anyhow. And if you DO need a long trip, you could rent a car (or truck if you need to haul stuff)

Ids it perfect for everyone? No. But no car is 100% perfect for 100% of the possible uses for a car. Miata's can't tow a horse trailer very well and F350s are crappy commuters or slalom racers. Vastly more people could use an EV like the Leaf right now as a primary car than can be built and sold anyhow. And even more could use one as their secondary car (considering in the US, over 65% of households have 2-3 cars, that's a lot of peopel that could effectively use a Leaf even now).

[sisnerover]

Superb looks....hope to see new model soon.

[Joe Sharp]

Chris V., on Aug 10 2011, 08:15 AM, said:

The infrastructure is already being built all over, with most of I5 on th e west coast having recharging stations. Companies are building employee parking with rechargers, and businesses like restaruants are building rechargers for customers to use whelie in the business.

Range anxiety is silly. Most people (or at least the average person) don't drive more thna 30 miles a day, and most of those people drive less than 20 miles a day. If you charge at night at your home, you can easily do a couple hundred miles per week in commuting and errand running. No, you're not going to take long trip s in one, but most of the time, for most peopel they aren't taking long trips in their family car anyhow. And if you DO need a long trip, you could rent a car (or truck if you need to haul stuff)

Ids it perfect for everyone? No. But no car is 100% perfect for 100% of the possible uses for a car. Miata's can't tow a horse trailer very well and F350s are crappy commuters or slalom racers. Vastly more people could use an EV like the Leaf right now as a primary car than can be built and sold anyhow. And even more could use one as their secondary car (considering in the US, over 65% of households have 2-3 cars, that's a lot of peopel that could effectively use a Leaf even now).

you make some really good points about the Leaf its good that other states and cities have the infrastructure. im from MI and i dont think its here yet, but hopefully soon. do cities/businesses get tax breaks for putting that stuff in?

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[adhall33]

I work for a Nissan dealership (no Im not a salesman) and I have been in a demo that was brought by. its a nice car


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[Chris V.]

Joe Sharp, on Aug 24 2011, 09:44 AM, said:

you make some really good points about the LEAF. its good that other states and cities have the infrastructure. im from MI and i dont think its here yet, but hopefully soon. do cities/businesses get tax breaks for putting that stuff in?

Sometimes they get tax breaks for putting in charging stations, sometimes they get subsidies, sometimes they do it simply because it's good business to do so.

Say, do you add those dealership ads in your posts or is it automatically done? I'd stop doing it if you are...

[junnecameron]

ROFL!! so sarcastic!

[dr. joint]

All the narrow-minded people will say that the Nissan Leaf is quite pointless and will NEVER EVER equal the functionality, usefulness and range of a normal car.

The Nissan Leaf was not intended to change your mind on how you perceive automobiles per se.

The Nissan Leaf was not designed to change the world (or help the world recover from global warming.)

The Nissan Leaf does not use a single drop of petrol for propulsion. That itself is a game changer.

Directly or indirectly, it does not matter if you are still dependent on crude oil or electricity.

What matters most is showing the world that brilliant minds are working constantly to end the greed and insanity of oil cartels worldwide.

If the Tesla Model S was only cheaper then it would be one of the best cars to buy.

Long live the electric car! Long live the gasoline car! Long live the diesels!

It beats riding a bike going to work, you know. (although there is nothing wrong with riding a bike.)

[Elite_Deforce]

dr. joint, on 26 October 2011 - 03:54 AM, said:

All the narrow-minded people will say that the Nissan Leaf is quite pointless and will NEVER EVER equal the functionality, usefulness and range of a normal car.

The Nissan Leaf was not intended to change your mind on how you perceive automobiles per se.

The Nissan Leaf was not designed to change the world (or help the world recover from global warming.)

The Nissan Leaf does not use a single drop of petrol for propulsion. That itself is a game changer.

Directly or indirectly, it does not matter if you are still dependent on crude oil or electricity.

What matters most is showing the world that brilliant minds are working constantly to end the greed and insanity of oil cartels worldwide.

If the Tesla Model S was only cheaper then it would be one of the best cars to buy.

Long live the electric car! Long live the gasoline car! Long live the diesels!

It beats riding a bike going to work, you know. (although there is nothing wrong with riding a bike.)

Amen

[tiRo]

Bring down the price and I will be more then happy to drive a Nissan Leaf


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Edited by Chris V., 22 December 2011 - 05:01 PM.

[Elite_Deforce]

tiRo, on 22 December 2011 - 01:47 PM, said:

Bring down the price and I will be more then happy to drive a Nissan Leaf


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The price is quite low already.

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