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 Feb 8 2010, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE (Elite_Deforce @ Feb 8 2010, 02:06 PM)  Big engine with lots of power, rear wheel drive, usually 2+2 configuration, affordable. I agree but Draguar is also right, affordable shouldn't be in the list. --------------------  I'm putting speed bumps on a handicap ramp |
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Feb 8 2010, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE (bfeeney @ Feb 8 2010, 06:01 PM) Here's one for everyone. What is the defintion of a 'muscle car'? American, cheap, loud, MANUAL, fast, big V8, simple, and RWD. -------------------- If at first you don't succeed, redefine success
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Feb 8 2010, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (2007DBR9 @ Feb 8 2010, 03:43 PM) American, cheap, loud, MANUAL, fast, big V8, simple, and RWD. what about australian ford falcon? or holdens? ac cobra were american engined but british body? why manual most muscle cars are auto 289ci mustangs are not that big engined compaired to 440ci and alike but are still muscle cars. fast compaired to what most original muscle cars would be out proformed by moden production cars Nice try but your wrong....  |
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Feb 8 2010, 03:24 PM
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Ultimate Member Group: Members Joined: 17-February 08 From: Scotland Member No.: 16880 Year: 2009 Model: Vauxhall VXR8 6.2 My Photos
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QUOTE (draguar @ Feb 8 2010, 08:01 PM) what about australian ford falcon? or holdens? ac cobra were american engined but british body? why manual most muscle cars are auto 289ci mustangs are not that big engined compaired to 440ci and alike but are still muscle cars. fast compaired to what most original muscle cars would be out proformed by moden production cars Nice try but your wrong.... Thats's true, but they are made by GM and Ford which are American  Because manual is just better. Mustangs are pony cars! They were fast for their time! I stand by my post 
-------------------- If at first you don't succeed, redefine success
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Feb 8 2010, 03:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Joined: 24-January 10 From: Essex, England Member No.: 19335 Year: 1986 Make: Jaguar Model: xjs v12 My Photos
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QUOTE (2007DBR9 @ Feb 8 2010, 03:24 PM) Thats's true, but they are made by GM and Ford which are American Because manual is just better. Mustangs are pony cars! They were fast for their time! I stand by my post so mustangs are not muscle cars a bmw m5 is not a AC cobras are not...... well jaguar xjr, stypeR were ford owned but you said they are not a muscle car????? and merc`s made under the DaimlerChrysler brand??? there are some holes in your theory |
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Feb 8 2010, 03:43 PM
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Ultimate Member Group: Members Joined: 27-August 09 From: Ohio, U.S.A. Member No.: 18571 Year: 1989 Make: Pontiac Model: Trans Am My Photos
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Alot of the 60's American cars were 4 speeds
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Feb 8 2010, 03:46 PM
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Ultimate Member Group: Members Joined: 17-February 08 From: Scotland Member No.: 16880 Year: 2009 Model: Vauxhall VXR8 6.2 My Photos
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QUOTE (draguar @ Feb 8 2010, 08:40 PM) so mustangs are not muscle cars a bmw m5 is not a AC cobras are not...... well jaguar xjr, stypeR were ford owned but you said they are not a muscle car????? and merc`s made under the DaimlerChrysler brand??? there are some holes in your theory The M5 is a V10 sports sedan, not a muscle car AC Cobra... I will give you that one. XJR is a GT car, S Type R was crap and also a sports sedan. Mercs are sports sedans too, but most importantly they are expensive!! The idea is a muscle car is cheap - for example my VXR8 will give an M5 a run for its money for half the price. The Corvettes run rings round things that cost 3 times as much! -------------------- If at first you don't succeed, redefine success
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Feb 8 2010, 03:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Joined: 24-January 10 From: Essex, England Member No.: 19335 Year: 1986 Make: Jaguar Model: xjs v12 My Photos
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ok what about a jenson interceptor
sport sadan what like a charger, camaro, road runner, impala, gto, the E39 m5 was a v8 top gear reckoned the Stype R was better than the monaro and the 300c This post has been edited by draguar: Feb 8 2010, 03:57 PM |
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Feb 8 2010, 03:59 PM
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Ultimate Member Group: Members Joined: 17-February 08 From: Scotland Member No.: 16880 Year: 2009 Model: Vauxhall VXR8 6.2 My Photos
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QUOTE (draguar @ Feb 8 2010, 08:52 PM) ok what about a jenson interceptor sport sadan what like a charger, camaro, road runner, impala, gto, the E39 m5 was a v8 top gear reckoned the Stype R was better than the monaro and the 300c More of a GT car, no? Sport Sedan as in expensive luxary car with lots of technology that will go like hell when you want it to! Like the M5, RS6, RS4, M3, AMG models etc. Still a sport sedan and too expensive to be a muscle car I think. Watch it back, they liked the Monaro best
-------------------- If at first you don't succeed, redefine success
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Feb 8 2010, 04:10 PM
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Member Group: Members Joined: 24-January 10 From: Essex, England Member No.: 19335 Year: 1986 Make: Jaguar Model: xjs v12 My Photos
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QUOTE (2007DBR9 @ Feb 8 2010, 03:59 PM) More of a GT car, no? Sport Sedan as in expensive luxary car with lots of technology that will go like hell when you want it to! Like the M5, RS6, RS4, M3, AMG models etc. Still a sport sedan and too expensive to be a muscle car I think. Watch it back, they liked the Monaro best impala`s were a luxary car in there day is it any more of a gt car than a trans-am what about a mg z-t v8 not american but basic, fast, rwd. v8 and cheap |
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Feb 8 2010, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (draguar @ Feb 8 2010, 02:11 PM) good one.... if a muscle car must be cheap dose that mean a zo6 is not a muscle car??? what about an AC cobra? roush mustang? even a baracuda? they change hand for mega money now days dose that mean they were a muscle car and now not??? Hold on a minute. First of all, the Vette is not a muscle car, it is a full fledged sports car. Second of all the AC Cobra is an exception. Third of all the Roush Mustang is an expensive handling version of a muscle car, ergo it's not a muscle car. The baracuda wasn't 2324343 dollars when it was built. The fact that they are valuable now means nothing. Edit: K, well now that i've seen the third page of this discussion, I have deemed it necessary to no longer care and stand by my original statement. This post has been edited by Elite_Deforce: Feb 8 2010, 05:39 PM -------------------- 10 Automotive Commandments 1) What's better? Driving an appliance, or crashing an appliance? 2)Ask a stupid question, and you'll get a stupid answer. 3)N/A all the way. 4)V6 Mustangs are as good as Civics. 5)Electronic music killed my speakers 6)Having a 10 second Civic is like coming out of the closet. At first you surprise people, but you're still gay. 7)If you can't beat em', why are you trying??? 8) Turbo is the expensive way to a rebuild. 9) V-Tec is the illusion of power 10) Looks are subjective, so if your argument(s) is/are based on looks, it essentially means your argument(s) has/have failed QUOTE (dr. joint @ Jan 6 2010, 09:49 AM) Bring the love back, BMW. Fuck luxury. :angry:   </div> |
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Feb 8 2010, 05:48 PM
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ok then ED how would you discribe a muscle car then???????? what about 65 shelby mustang is that not a muscle car as it is a version of a mustang or the superbird as its a version of a road runner??
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Feb 8 2010, 10:35 PM
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Car Forum Overlord Group: Moderator Joined: 3-July 07 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 15998 Year: 1986 Make: Mazda Model: RX-7 GX (FC) My Photos
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QUOTE (draguar @ Feb 8 2010, 05:48 PM) ok then ED how would you discribe a muscle car then???????? what about 65 shelby mustang is that not a muscle car as it is a version of a mustang or the superbird as its a version of a road runner?? Errr...... -------------------- 10 Automotive Commandments 1) What's better? Driving an appliance, or crashing an appliance? 2)Ask a stupid question, and you'll get a stupid answer. 3)N/A all the way. 4)V6 Mustangs are as good as Civics. 5)Electronic music killed my speakers 6)Having a 10 second Civic is like coming out of the closet. At first you surprise people, but you're still gay. 7)If you can't beat em', why are you trying??? 8) Turbo is the expensive way to a rebuild. 9) V-Tec is the illusion of power 10) Looks are subjective, so if your argument(s) is/are based on looks, it essentially means your argument(s) has/have failed QUOTE (dr. joint @ Jan 6 2010, 09:49 AM) Bring the love back, BMW. Fuck luxury. :angry: </div> |
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